陈坤开始转型了

坤言坤语

鱼蛋头可是我的最爱，我觉得这样的坤特可爱，看起来也很快乐！:)

Edward

原帖由 dream 于 2007-6-26 10:33 发表
每一个年代，有它流行的电影题材，神怪片的年代实在已经成为一个历史....

至於，在中国的历史里，最有名的，或许是西游记、聊斋等，但已经有很多版本.....

神怪片不会成为历史的，这得看谁拍和技术而已。韩国、日本和泰国也在拍这些神怪恐怖片，尚可以，如《死亡日记》、《愿望鬼梯》、《shutter》、《咒怨》、《午夜凶铃》(真搞笑，不过一个头发遮脸的女鬼从电视机里爬出来就把多个日本美楣吓晕在戏院里;P

Walt Disney在98年就推出以中国的花木兰为题材的卡通《Mulan》，起初觉得花木兰不是什么好题材，之前也看过中台制作的花木兰卡通，蛮闷的。姑且进戏院一看，非常生动和有气派，再加上风趣鬼马的香港演员配音，大受欢迎 ictory:

有个武侠迷朋友说，金庸曾规定TVB每10年得翻拍他的武侠作品才肯把版权卖出，因为10年后的技术等都会变得不同。例如TVB就把《西游记》改编了，出现个什么万妖女王、乌鸦精和大king kong等，再加上新的科技特效和风趣对白，蛮娱乐性的 :lol  简单地说“桥唔怕旧，至紧要受，各施各法，各马各扎，唔同师傅就唔同做法”，当然得不时加入新的元素才能吸引观众  :)  

Edward

日前看了CCTV4播放香港回归10周年的一些报导，说到有关《大话西游》在内地排名第二最钟爱的港片，仅次于《无间道》，难怪《非你不可》里的青青会迷恋上这出电影，起初还很好奇有什么好看的，因为我觉得那是星爷最差的作品之一，过于无厘头，最深刻的莫过于片子里那首改版的英文歌《Only You》-> only you can take me取西经......:lol

回归后，港片就少了移民和97大限这类题材和话题。以前，这可是港片里耳熟能详的课题，他们努力赚钱搞移民而衍生出不少家庭问题，飞去温哥华不习惯，又飞到旧金山、多伦多、墨尔本、纽约、伦敦等等，大部分兜转了地球半个圈后还是觉得香港最好，但又非常惧怕97，即迷茫且彷徨，深怕西方预言香港之死会成为现实，东方之珠从此变成东方之猪或东方蜘蛛，诚惶诚恐地迎接回归 :Q

今日看来香港依旧璀璨夺目，连续13年蝉联世界第一最自由经济体，难怪大马首富郭鹤年多年来选择定都香港指挥其商业皇朝，不曾动摇，多名本地华裔巨贾也陆续加强与香港的合作以决战经济如日中天的神州。当然祝愿香港明天会更好啰，好歹东方之珠在中国闭关自守的时候一直为全球华侨提供源源不绝的维他命C(culture通俗文化的文学作品)、E(entertainment影视歌唱娱乐)、T(trend时尚潮流)和I(information各类资讯)，很难想象，如果没有你，日子怎么过;P

[ 本帖最后由 Edward 于 2007-7-4 03:58 编辑 ]

dream

……韩国、日本和泰国也在拍这些神怪恐怖片…
那些是现代恐怖片呀，不是一般的神怪片。
若论惊吓片，那三个国家创作出来的，应该是不错。
坤所拍的《门》，是一部心理惊吓片，已是新的尝试。

……简单地说“桥唔怕旧，至紧要受，各施各法，各马各扎，唔同师傅就唔同做法”，当然得不时加入新的元素才能吸引观众…
这个倒同意。
坤与周星驰是不同特质的演员，西游记或许适合周天马行空式的发挥，但不一定适合坤。:lol

Best-Of-Wish

Yes, I agree, it is so true, Kun-er & Mr. Zhou are absolutely, very very much different.   Kun-er belongs to another level, and on a
totally different track.

:)   By the way, I sincerely hope that Kun-er wouldn't have to involve in any movie or production that talks about things like
the evil spirit, or the ghostly spiritual world  ( fairy-tales or mystery stories  are a bit different, as long as they don't involve "evil" stuff.)

What causes me to say that, is because I 've read an article, and it has impressed me quite deeply;  and I think the advice is really
true and sincere.  It was a long time ago, and I can't remember the details, but the main point is, that "evil spirit"  will try to find any
small crack or opening in our mind, heart & soul, to invade or find its home in a person, if we give them any possible chance.

There is a real example, about a young person who became insane and never recover, after watching  (I forgot the name of the movie) a very
popular movie about evil spirits.  The human mind, heart & soul, unlike the computer, are not able to delete any "evil" stuff when we
feel that we are uncomfortable or lose our peace.  Therefore, the writer of that article suggested that we try our very best not to get
ourselves to become involve with things like that, and be careful about what we look at & listen to, because it is hard to delete what comes into our minds;
and I just want to share with Kun-er and everybody here, because I care very much about all of you, and I do think that that is a very wise & sincere
advice from the writer of that article.  :loveliness:

[ 本帖最后由 Best-Of-Wish 于 2007-7-9 02:42 编辑 ]

fangfang

“the evil spirit” or “the ghostly spiritual world”---truly is a difficult to understand thing.

Even I can't say it cleraly, but I don't think we need to be afraid or to aviod. “the evil spirit” I don't know, but “the ghostly spiritual world” would be good,or would be neutral. I don't know what exact the experience you've got, but for me these things are very interesting to think about.xixi..:)

I just saw the movie <pan's Labyrinth>. It is about real world versus "fantasy world". I quote the fantasy world here, it is becauce that the movie ( or director) makes it real. I like it so much, and for me it is a amazing exprience and deeply moved when I think about those things.

[ 本帖最后由 fangfang 于 2007-7-6 09:29 编辑 ]

Best-Of-Wish

:loveliness:   Hi! Fangfang, I have not made myself very clear, sorry!  The writer probably meant, you know, those "horror" movies,
anything that would cause some kind of damage to our soul & mind & emotions.  As for the movie you enjoy so much, from the title
and your description, -- about real world versus "fantasy world",  I love those too,  'fantasies' are always fascinating.   I will try to watchit one of these days.

There is another movie, based on a fairy or fantasy tale, written by one of the very famous writer C.S. Lewis, I watched it in 06 at the cinema, named
"The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe"  ( I may put the names in the wrong order, but it has the words -- Lion, Witch, Wardrobe
in the title.  On the surface, it is like a fantasy story, but in fact it is talking also about the spiritual world and our human world;  about
the good & evil choices we face in life, our helplessness, and finally the "Hope" & the "Solution".   At first, I thought it is a fantasy movie for children,
but as I watched, I felt so touched and it brought tears to my eyes.  Therefore, I would like to share it with you and everybody. :)

P.S.  Just checked the exact name of the DVD (by Walt Disney Pictures) at its website ---   "The Chronicles of Narnia : The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe"

[ 本帖最后由 Best-Of-Wish 于 2007-7-8 05:49 编辑 ]

fangfang

Dear Best-of-wish, I have  same exactly feelings about "fantasy tale" movies as you. You made it more clear. And I don't like the "horroe" movies neither. I rarely watched one.:handshake

[ 本帖最后由 fangfang 于 2007-7-7 10:31 编辑 ]

凤阳歌

“坤与周星驰是不同特质的演员，西游记或许适合周天马行空式的发挥，但不一定适合坤”

--------SG还是文艺些比较好，他与LCW倒是同类型的演员，走那条道更合适

L老了，戏拍得太多了，高峰期也过了

Edward

原帖由 Best-Of-Wish 于 2007-7-6 06:46 发表
about a young person who became insane and never recover, after watching  (I forgot the name of the movie) a very
popular movie about evil spirits
:)   By the way, I sincerely hop ...

There's only a coincidence or maybe the fellow had long been diseased to mental disorder unconsciously. In US, there're quite some cases of fatal on-campus shooting committed by the teenagers, shall we conclude that
this is a phenomenon resulted from the gangsterism being propagated by the films? Had they been
mind-poisoned by the movies or influenced by the so-called evil stuff ? Well, this may be attributable to the
easy access to guns too when they stay out of control of emotion. Indeed, nowadays everyone seems
suffering from some degree of mental suppression depending very much on how we manage our EQ properly.

Evil stuff do NOT always mean ghost-related or supernatural issues, something vicious, with bad intention or
crimes like rape, robbery, war, gangsterism, murder and etc can also be perceived as evil stuff which can just
come to rule our psyche to behave somehow unusual by means of imitation when we feel infirm, depressed and frustrated beyond the bearable level. So, it's actually arguable in the definition as we can also view
whatsoever negative as evil stuff  :)

No worry, I believe Chen Kun had long been well-exposed to the supernatural / spiritual stuff since he's quite a devout buddhist with strong interest in <The Tibetan Book Of Living and Dying>. I once skimmed through the
said a few sections, it's very in-depth about those spiritual issues notably reincarnation. Perhaps, he's already a Sifu(Master) in the field knowing how to evade the evil spirits effectively :P  

[ 本帖最后由 Edward 于 2007-7-9 03:32 编辑 ]

Edward

原帖由 dream 于 2007-7-4 20:36 发表
……韩国、日本和泰国也在拍这些神怪恐怖片…
那些是现代恐怖片呀，不是一般的神怪片。
若论惊吓片，那三个国家创作出来的，应该是不错。
坤所拍的《门》，是一部心理惊吓片，已是新的尝试。

……简单地说 ...

总的来说，还是较想看一些时装喜剧，或有任务在身的，但不要整天愁眉苦脸和扳起脸来，最好是潇洒不羁和充满睿智的那一种。唔....港剧的《人生马戏团》也不错，听说《冲上云霄》也要拍续集，华语片缺少的就是一些活该的对白，蛮喜欢港片那些 “抵死” 的粤语对白《唔好空肚食早餐》，《你知唔知乜野叫做神，因为神做到人做唔到既野.......》(头文字D)  :lol   

[ 本帖最后由 Edward 于 2007-7-9 03:05 编辑 ]

婧雯

期待

dream

……他与LCW倒是同类型的演员，走那条道更合适……
这个有同感，不过觉得坤比梁朝伟的可塑性大一点，指的是在轻松点的题材上，
梁始终像一把拉紧了的弓，不论是戏里、或是戏外，好像没能够轻松。
坤演的罗密欧，起码可以感到坤与刘若英对戏，演的很开心，很好玩。

dream

…总的来说，还是较想看一些时装喜剧，或有任务在身的，但不要整天愁眉苦脸和扳起脸来，最好是潇洒不羁和充满睿智的那一种。…

所以坤现在拍花花型警，应该是对胃囗，想喝的那杯茶:lol

dream

一念天堂，一念地狱。
信念是抽象的，何时投入，何时抽离，不一定尽在掌握、尽如人意。
不想挑战承受的能耐，控制的极限，恐怖、神怪之片，觉得少些接触会好一点。

fangfang

原帖由 dream 于 2007-7-9 08:11 发表
一念天堂，一念地狱。
信念是抽象的，何时投入，何时抽离，不一定尽在掌握、尽如人意。
不想挑战承受的能耐，控制的极限，恐怖、神怪之片，觉得少些接触会好一点。

有道理! GOT TO BE CAREFUL.:P

windbreeze

原帖由 dream 于 2007-7-9 20:13 发表
……他与LCW倒是同类型的演员，走那条道更合适……
这个有同感，不过觉得坤比梁朝伟的可塑性大一点，指的是在轻松点的题材上，
梁始终像一把拉紧了的弓，不论是戏里、或是戏外，好像没能够轻松。
坤演的罗密 ...

大家都很年轻哦，不知道梁朝伟年轻的时候也是个喜剧明星。

凤阳歌

“不过觉得坤比梁朝伟的可塑性大一点，指的是在轻松点的题材上，”

---------的确如此。陈坤的戏路更宽一些，毕竟不是同代人嘛

一个时代结束了，又一个新的时代开启了
艺术就如此传承，不是残酷，是自然规律，一如四季更迭

凤阳歌

“坤演的罗密欧，起码可以感到坤与刘若英对戏，演的很开心，很好玩。”
-----------这个角色演得特别出彩，很得小男生们的欢迎，因此更觉他有演喜剧的才哦:P

凤阳歌

“不想挑战承受的能耐，控制的极限，恐怖、神怪之片，觉得少些接触会好一点。”

-----------难道没看出这类片的受众群体不那么“广大”吗？看看SG几部片的票房就知道了

不同的时代，人们的欣赏口习惯大不同哦

别说什么大话一类
哪个演员不希望自己的影视作品能得到大众的欢迎啊

凤阳歌

“不知道梁朝伟年轻的时候也是个喜剧明星。”
--------看过几眼他的WXB，始终觉得不够喜剧哦

他的气质比SG更闷一些

蓝色心

期待坤~`！！

dfflying

是啊，LCW的“小鱼儿”是经典角色啊~演得很好的

Edward

原帖由 dream 于 2007-7-9 21:11 发表
一念天堂，一念地狱。
信念是抽象的，何时投入，何时抽离，不一定尽在掌握、尽如人意。

Ooops，不錯，之前據聞鄭秀文因不能抽離《長恨歌》裏的角色而差點患上憂鬱症，休息了好一段時期才復出。張國榮則聽説拍了《異度空間》後，亦是不能抽離角色而變得有點精神恍惚........隨後就驚聞他的自殺消息，深覺惋惜，在這夜闌人靜的時分聼著他的名曲《當年情》還增添幾分惆悵 :'(

     所以說，陳坤多演喜劇/諧劇就好啦，時時常歡笑，不要眼淚掉，體内細胞也會相應地變得更青春健康。31嵗就說老要什麽30而立，那些港星通常都是在30多嵗後才成名，到了40多嵗還常飾演20多嵗的角色。一個特點就是那些港星好像越老越靚，尤其是在30-40嵗閒，年輕時反而不好看，如劉德華、梁朝偉、張國榮、鄭秀文、佘施曼、汪明荃、羅嘉良等。30而立是針對2千多年前的時空和環境而言，現在是否該調整一下，不能一本通書看到老:P  

[ 本帖最后由 Edward 于 2007-7-13 01:41 编辑 ]

dream

……陳坤多演喜劇/諧劇就好啦……

哈哈…这个倒不希望，偶一为之可以，喜劇/諧劇，不是坤要常喝的那杯茶。:P

……31嵗就說老要什麽30而立……

那只是青涩和成熟的分界线，需要变奏的一个点而矣。
坤还有漫漫的演艺长路要走，总要在一个时刻，从某一阶段跳到另一个阶段。